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Lotsa great points Lucinda! So, yup, many moons ago my girls and I read the original Wizard of Oz books--we have the full collection!--and I DO believe the story works on SO many levels! as Jerry mentioned, much has been written about Baum's spoofing of finance (silver/gold standards/ yellow brick roads!/Emerald City green like money/greenbacks, populism, etc) but scholars have later and also clarified (fwiw) that Baum was poking fun've all sides (politically) and was actually known to come to stump speeches for all parties runnin' fer office and make wiseacre comments to literally "stump" the speakers! He felt a lotta politicians were full'a hot air--like the balloon in the story!

But the idea of the official story bein' wrong and rewriting it STILL as a cover (Huffin' an' Puffin'!) --as you show, the OZ collection is really many stories and indeed some are so impossible in reality you need green glasses (as in OZ) to "believe"--not unlike the way media "tints" and "colors" the perspective and views of the populace in general. And of course we sure get this idea of public vs private "stories" in Oz with the man behind the curtain being VERY different from the powerful Whizz-urd we see in public--he is sort of an original DEEP FAKE!!!!--like AI... so yer bringin' up the original W-O-O (woo is right!) is spot on! I'm there with ya..!

Now all ya mentioned about the church (Catholic /pope) is one of the horrible realities of the way today's religion(s) have been co-opted/infiltrated...and it goes back back back in time. Kissing a shoe or a ring is idolatry--someone needs to write a book about the dark side of the rituals alone... And yes, Red Shoes in recent decades (look up McCauley Culkin's red shoe story--gives ya the willies!) having even darker meaning...

But in the 1939 movie... I read the red shoes were chosen because of technicolor and wantin' them to stand out-- This is often done (color changes from what's in a book when translated into film...even hair color of characters is changed!)... AND though MKUltra HAS long used Wizard of Oz imagery and symbolic triggers fer programming and monarch training... I do NOT think the Hollywood movie (which is a HUGE favorite of mine) had ANY stealthy imagery or satanic hoodoo goin' on--that stuff came later (in terms of intentional stuff) but re the Wizard of Oz film itself--it's use with the MK Ultra team started post WWII---so it was not part of it.

Also, as you said, in all incarnations GOOD triumphs over EVIL, the way "back home" is always in OUR Power (Dorothy is like us--on a journey and needing to learn that the real magic is inside her and the power to be free has been there all along!) an' of COURSE there is much (for a later time mebbe!) to unpack in terms of all the positive and humanitarian messages in both the books and the movie... a few come to mind--like know-how and ingenuity! innocence and spunk! brave animals (go Toto!...go Lion!) good people forced to work for a baddie--people who later "wake up" like the witch's guards..., "monkeys" follerin' orders, the importance of HOME and makin' peace with your own ambitions and far flung grass-is-greener fantasies too....

Anyway Lucinda, thanks for that deep dive into Oz there--very much apt an' enjoyed!

As fer the rest...yes, as you list all the war games / exercises/tabletop operations--Huff n' Puff is right in there and this NEW cant on the WooHan story is yet another psyop / game--or window shade to stop folks from looking into the fragile house of cards (still standin' but flimsy)--behind the curtain! I think he's a bad liar.. but clearly decent people like Holehouse are takin' this guy at face value (sigh)

And yup, as Porky sez (the late great Mel Blanc doin' him AND Bugs...) "That's all folks!" -- it's a big show, a cartoon...and these wily mouthpieces ain't to be trusted more than ya'd trust a coyote (Wily Coyote!) near a hen house... thankfully some've us hens 'r gonna squwak!

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woo hoo! thank ya much nymusicdaily! yup, I know there's been Stuff on Huff's Puff (ha ha).... but this newfangled angle--newfangle!--is that he "admits" DOD is in on it....ONLY to twist it like a twizzler ta say that it was just them "bein' lazy"and sloppy, cain't make this up!

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