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Jerry's avatar

When I saw this I of course thought of Frank Olsen jumping from a tenth floor window of the Statler in 1953, just a couple of days after Thanksgiving day. Funny how this funny mind works. And I thought of the guy from Bed Bath and BEYOND. And other such moments.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

Yes--the Frank Olsen story is a huge one, he saw it all and some say was gonna spill the beans (he was dead long before they pushed him out the winda'). I wonder about the BBB guy (ha ha, BEYOND is right!) There are more of course...

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Jerry's avatar

Well, there was this guy:

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/02/04/archives/44story-plunge-kills-head-of-united-brands-united-brands-head.html

There was Stephanie Adams and the NY judge (Lori Sattler) who was directly enmeshed in Adams' death and that of her son as well as three other deaths, two literal and one metaphoric. I'm directly connected to that last one and wrote a letter to the commission on judicial conduct...to no avail of course.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44172431

And there's the movie death of Waring Hudsucker.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

My mom is a perfect example of the trauma based mind control. They call me a conspiracy nut. Her dad was cia, a horribly abusive man. She has no idea how split she is but she’s 80 so it’s working for her.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

Some folks do recall in moments from the "splits" and others never get there--I read sometimes it takes something huge like a car accident for memories to return. Programming is very scary and I'm so sorry your own mother was a victim of this--this is a very dark side of the CIA (and contrary to reports, nope, it never stopped). Now it's mainstream tv...

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John Botica's avatar

I made a comment about a particular spoken line on Jim Morrison's 'American Prayer' album... I wanted to edit it (because I actually recalled the line incorrectly). The comment seems to have gone missing? Anyway, I thought he said... "Do you know we are hypnotised by TV". He actually said... "Do you know we are ruled by TV". Same thing I guess. But interesting how our minds have a tendency to alter things over time.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

Morrison knew fer sure--"ruled" is in a way is stronger than hypnotized (TV sort of like an Easter Island God) --27 club, poor kid -- his father was a super-spook navy man, responsible for Gulf of Tonkin !!! Some say skeeeery daddy was involved in sonny's death... Either way, opening Doors and findin' out too much can get the curious in mighty hot water... (ya likely know the back story but it's not common knowledge so sharing in context... )

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John Botica's avatar

That’s right… Jimbo’s old man essentially started the Vietnam war! It’s actually quite incredible just how many rock stars of the day were raised in government/CIA/military intelligence households.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

Yup, SPOOKY Laurel Canyon it was (if they didn't start there they landed there.... Janis, Jimi, Zappa, CSNY, John Philips...dang the list is long...) I think they all figured it out which explains some brilliant lyrics (and messages) which still resonate today...

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